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		<title>Archive from pilot website (new threads)</title>
		<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/c-64163/archive-from-pilot-website</link>
		<description>Threads in the forum category &quot;Archive from pilot website&quot; - This category has separate threads for each blog post and user comment thread from the pilot website</description>
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				<title>Census Outputs for Scotland</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108916/census-outputs-for-scotland</link>
				<description>Originally posted 25/07/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>We, at GROS, are keen to get feedback from users on any issues focussed specifically on census outputs for Scotland. While the recent online survey included some questions relating to each individual country in the UK, we would like to use this blog posting to provide users with the opportunity to expand on any particular Scottish issues. For example, we would like to know what you think went well and not so well with the 2001 Census outputs issued by GROS? What would be your top priorities for improvements to Scottish census outputs come 2011? Any thoughts on how Scottish census outputs should best interface with other data such as Scottish Neighbourhood Statistics (SNS)? - e.g. a consolidated single source of census and non-census data, or building in better links between the SNS, Scottish Government and other official statistics websites, and a 'son of SCROL'? Any other suggestions for improved or alternative ways of accessing Scottish census data?</p> 
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				<title>Metadata to aid comparison</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108915/metadata-to-aid-comparison</link>
				<description>Oriiginally posted on 11/07/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The definitions volume for 2001 Census (available printed and on the National Statistics website) included a section on ‘comparability with the 1991 Census’ (see page 19 of the <a href="http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloads/census2001/definitions_chapters_1_5.pdf">definitions volume</a>). To inform users where a direct comparison between the Censuses should not be assumed summary information was provided on new and revised questions, and an indication of where the questions were essentially unchanged.</p> <p>Was this summary information adequate?</p> <p>Is there any additional information to aid comparison between the 2001 Census and the 2011 Census that you would like to see provided for use with the next Census?</p> <p>Our aim is to provide metadata that is useful and appropriate to our users. To guide us it is helpful to know what changes/new information or products would be desirable to improve on the metadata provided for the previous Census. Your opinions matter.</p> <p>As always with topics on this blog, please provide any examples of websites that provide information related to the topic of discussion that you found particularly useful.</p> 
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				<title>User support and training</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108912/user-support-and-training</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 27/06/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Generally we have good feedback from our customers on our Census Customer Support service but we are open to ideas on any improvements that could be made for 2011 user support. For example, some users have said that they would have liked to have been offered a census training course to explain the range of 2001 statistical outputs and metadata and how to locate and access these. Although we are at an early stage in our thinking about 2011 Census output products and services and delivery systems, we would be interested to know if there will be any demand for this kind of service for 2011 output and if so what kind of training would be most likely to meet user needs? On-line training or a course delivered “face to face” to a small group of users? Or perhaps regional day seminars delivered to larger groups? And, or course, the fundamental question of whether there would there be a willingness on the part of organisations to pay for the delivery of training courses?</p> <p>Please let us know your thoughts about training needs and census user support in general.</p> 
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				<title>Visualizing Census data</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108908/visualizing-census-data</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 17/06/2008 by Brendan (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Even this far in advance, it is clear that the 2011 Census will provide an invaluable - and interesting - snapshot of life in the United Kingdom. Crucial to making that information useful (and well used) will be making census outputs intelligble for a wide range of users, from specialised statisticians and researchers right through to interested citizens and schoolchildren. Against this background, there is also the constantly changing technological backdrop of the Web, which will play a key role as a delivery channel. So - how should 2011 Census data be presented to users and in what formats?</p> <p>ONS has already made some progress in re-thinking how statistics can be presented for different audiences. For example, the interactive, <a href="http://www.statistics.gov.uk/populationestimates/svg_pyramid/default.htm">animated population pyramid</a> has proven popular with a wide-ranging audience. A tactile, playful approach to data presentation certainly seems to have its place. However, we are also aware that - in addition to downloading data, people might also to access data directly using Web 2.0 technologies. Such a mechanism might be useful for integrating data with data from other locations.</p> <p>We are interested to hear about people's expectations of how they will access and interpet Census data. Do users want tables of data and nothing else? Or do graphs, maps and other visual mechanisms have a role to play? Do people need guidance in interpreting Census data? What about places to share stories about census data? Do you already have plans for how you would like to engage with Census data? If so, please let us know.</p> 
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				<title>Eurostat</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108907/eurostat</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 04/06/2008 by Brendan (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>European Regulations govern the delivery of Census data to Eurostat from member states, and in the past the UK Census Offices (ONS, GROS and NISRA collectively)were obliged to provide Eurostat with a specific set of tables.</p> <p>New regulations will come into effect for the next Census that will require the National Statistics Institutes of member states to make their data available in data cubes as specified by Eurostat. Member states have contributed to the development of these specifications. Eurostat plans to build a web portal that can access data held by those member states who have web systems that are able to exchange data automatically with other websites, and are carrying out some pilot studies.</p> <p>The UK Census Offices are at an early stage in planning outputs, and the systems that will deliver them, and it is too soon for them to be involved with the pilot work or commit to developing such a system. However, we are interested in hearing about similar projects, especially those involving web access to data cubes, and learning about your experiences using web portals that access multiple web sites.</p> 
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				<title>Output Consultation Survey: Did we ask the right questions?</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108906/output-consultation-survey:did-we-ask-the-right-questions</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 30/05/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Following on from the close of the User Output Survey last week we have started to analyse the responses we received and we will be posting initial results at the beginning of July. In the meantime we would like to know if there were other output issues or other aspects of the included issues which we should have asked about.</p> <p>(As a reminder the survey focussed on high level issues and asked firstly about previous experience and use of census data and secondly about high level requirements for 2011 census data including 2001/2011 comparisons, access and dissemination, metadata, SDC and output priorities).</p> 
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				<title>Statistical Disclosure Control (SDC)</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108905/statistical-disclosure-control-sdc</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 22/05/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Disclosure Control is a necessary evil. We have an obligation to protect people’s information and if we didn’t they wouldn’t complete their Census forms. Applying disclosure control though means that we are always going to lose something - but there are choices and trade-offs to be made. The survey asked which SDC features users consider to be most important for example, maintaining additivity in tables, consistency across tables, counts that are as near as possible to true counts, a method that is easy to understand, being able to take account of the effects of the method in analysis and the relative importance of these features. Users from different communities may have different priorities and we will be reporting on this and giving feedback to the methodologists who are evaluating the short-listed SDC methods in terms of the protection they give and the effects on the data -a risk/utility continuum.</p> <p>We are aware that users were very unhappy about the effects of the late addition of Small Cell Adjustment in the 2001 Census, particularly to tables with low counts such as the OA level Origin/destination tables which resulted in users reporting that such outputs were “unfit for purpose”. Whichever SDC method is applied the data quality of sparse tables are going to be disproportionately affected. For these types of tables we are considering the option of applying lower levels of SDC and making the output available to users only under special licence or accessed in data labs with outputs checked prior to removal. For example, some outputs from the Origin/Destination tables could be made available publicly at Super Output Area (SOA)/Data Zone level, made available under licence at Output Area (OA) level, and allow users interested in specific journeys access to detailed micro-data in a safe setting.</p> <p>What would you feel about access arrangements such as this?</p> 
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				<title>Thank you to all survey respondents</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108903/thank-you-to-all-survey-respondents</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 21/05/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The survey of high level output requirements has now closed. Thank you to everyone who took the time to respond. Your views will now be collated and analysed. The results will be published on this website as they become available with initial findings being published at the beginning of July.</p> <p>This output consultation website will remain open. We are keen to engage as widely as possible with users on output issues so please continue to visit the site, see what other users are saying and give us your views.</p> 
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				<title>Cubes and associated web services</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108902/cubes-and-associated-web-services</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 12/05/2008 by Brendan (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Presentation of statistical data in the form of 'cubes' has become a common tool used by National Statistical Institutions (NSIs) in the last few years. Specific applications and the range of associated functionality vary between NSIs depending on the data, it's use, and the depth of development and history of implementation.</p> <p>The potential benefits to be gained from this area of continuing develop are obviously an important consideration for the presentation and web delivery of data from the 2011 Census. Decisions in this area should be strongly influenced by the depth and range of functionality that are either required, or that users feel are at least desirable.</p> <p>What experience of using data presented in cubes have users had? What are some of the best examples, and some of the worst? What specific features or functions are considered to be crucial, and what would be a nice option?</p> <p>Some things to consider are:</p> <ul> <li>being able to interrogate multiple cubes at the same time - is this essential, or should more consideration be given to providing single cube presentation, but with a better provision of a data source and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/API">API</a>, web service delivery to data 'mashup' services provided by 3rd parties such as Swivel or Yahoo Pipes</li> <li>the range of online interrogation and manipulation tools provided - are advanced manipulation and visualization tools essential, or again are such needs better fulfilled by elementary functionality supplemented by enhanced service provision to 3rd party web 2.0 tools</li> <li>range us data formats that have been or will be used and appreciated - beyond simple csv and other elementary formats, what experience is their of using <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML">XML</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDMX">SDMX</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON">JSON</a>, or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole_Markup_Language">KML</a></li> <li>metadata - depth and tightness of integration within and across cubes</li> </ul> 
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				<title>Survey closing soon</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108901/survey-closing-soon</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 09/05/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The Census Output Consultation Survey on high level output requirements will be closing on the 19th May so if you haven’t already done so please complete it before then.</p> <p>We have had a good response from across the user communities, in particular from Local Authorities. The Census Output Consultation website will not be closing so you please continue to make your views known on output issues. Results from the survey will be reported on the blog as they become available</p> 
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				<title>Metadata</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108900/metadata</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 03/04/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Metadata, supporting information, data about data, however you wish to refer to it, is an essential aid to understanding the data provided in the Census tables.</p> <p>We produced vast amounts of metadata to support the 2001 Census outputs. We have it on the ONS Website/Nomis/NESS on the CDs and in the printed volumes. The most detailed metadata is available on the ONS website - but would you know where to find it?</p> <p>I'm talking about footnotes, definitions, classifications, methodology, disclosure, geography and more but would be very interested to know:<br /> • What 2001 Census Outputs metadata resource/s you used?<br /> • Which was most useful?<br /> • What metadata resources you would like retained for 2011 Census Outputs?<br /> • What improvements you would like to see either to content or access?<br /> • New ideas for metadata resources or methods of access?<br /> We want your views both good and bad.</p> <p>Have you used any websites that provided fabulous metadata for large datasets provided with easy accessibility, if yes - what were they and why were they good (please provide link if possible)?</p> <p>Those of you that have completed our questionnaire have provided us with an insight to some areas of metadata that would be useful for the 2011 Census but now is your chance to elaborate on your comments.</p> <p>I will be posting some metadata topics for discussion, some may be of interest to you and some not, but if you have any comments on any of the following please let us know:<br /> • Metadata to aid comparison of 2001 and 2011 data<br /> • Definitions/Glossary - is it essential to have a printed version as well as an electronic version on the website?<br /> • Quality indicators (What type of indicators and at what level of detail)<br /> • Information about Census methodology<br /> • A user community developed Census folksonomy</p> <p>Please let us know of any other metadata related topics you would like to introduce for discussion.</p> 
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				<title>UK Level Census Outputs</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108678/uk-level-census-outputs</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 22/04/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>What is the strength of user demand for UK level output?</p> <p>The Registrar Generals’ Statement of Agreement on the Conduct of the 2011 includes an aim for consistency in UK output. The degree to which this is achievable is however largely dependent on the degree of consistency in questionnaire content of the UK Censuses, which is outside the scope of outputs and this consultation. However, within that constraint, there is still a decision to be made about the extent to which variables common to the UK Censuses are “joined-up”. How important is it to ensure that these variables have a common definition and either common categories or categories that can be combined to produce a (less detailed) common category at UK level? Would this satisfy user requirements or is it important for the UK Census Offices to actually produce UK level outputs? What are the arguments for “going this extra mile”?</p> 
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				<title>Data Feeds</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108673/data-feeds</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 25/03/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Over the last year or so I've heard quite a few references to data feeds, and there is some interest in the user community in using these to distribute 2011 Census data. Would you like to know more about the principles and practice relating to data feeds ? Do you have experience of using these and can give us some examples of good and bad practice, issues and risks?</p> 
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				<title>Flexible Outputs</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108668/flexible-outputs</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 10/03/2008 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Some NSI’s (for example Australia) are building tools that would enable users to specify and produce their own census tables on-line. The UK Census Offices are exploring the feasibility of providing this kind of flexibility in their 2011 Census dissemination system. However, the main “driver” would need to be user requirement rather than provision simply because there have been advancements in technology that enable this. To what extent would this kind of flexible dissemination model meet your needs? What would be the advantages and disadvantages from your point of view? What sorts of trade-offs would you be prepared to make, if any, in terms of the balance between flexible and pre-defined tables?</p> 
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				<title>Forthcoming themes</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-108665/forthcoming-themes</link>
				<description>Originally posted 10/03/08 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>In my last blog I said that would list some forthcoming themes for discussion. However, this is your space so please feel free to add to this list so we can discuss 2011 output items that are important to you</p> <p>• Data feeds<br /> • Differential access<br /> • Types of output products including<br /> - flexible user defined tables<br /> - UK level outputs<br /> • Metadata<br /> • Statistical Disclosure Control</p> 
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				<title>Accessing 2011 Census data products via the web</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-104110/accessing-2011-census-data-products-via-the-web</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 28/02/08 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Different 2001 Census data products have to be accessed from different web locations.To what extent would you like to see a “joined-up” approach to access and dissemination of 2011 Census data? For example, is it important to have one access point to all England and Wales 2011 Census data and if so why is this important? If you think it is important to have a single access point to all Census data produced by each of the Census Offices, does this exend to a single access point to all ONS, GROS and NISRA Census data products? And what you do consider to be the advantages and disadvantages of this?</p> 
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				<title>Elaborating on your survey responses</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-104102/elaborating-on-your-survey-responses</link>
				<description>Originally posted on 28/02/08 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The online consultation survey that accompanies this blog covers a number of high level output issues. If we get a good response from across the different user communities the results will provide a valuable "snap-shot" of the opinions users hold on these issues but, given the intrinsic nature of a questionnaire, it will not tell us much about WHY users hold the opinions they do. I hope you will use the blog to expand on the responses you have given to some of the closed questions.</p> <p>To facilitate that I intend picking up on different themes raised in the questionnaire on a regular basis and starting “threads” of discussion on the blog. In my next posting I will list forthcoming themes but please use the blog to suggest or start discussions on other high level output issues/themes that you consider to be important. To kick off, I would like to pick up on the theme of accessing Census data via the web.</p> 
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				<title>Welcome to the UK 2011 Census Output Consultation Blog</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-104098/welcome-to-the-uk-2011-census-output-consultation-blog</link>
				<description>Originally posted 22/02/08 by Angele (ONS)</description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Welcome. We hope you will use this blog to discuss output issues raised in the survey with other census users and with ourselves. It will be interesting to learn more about users’ priorities and how these might differ.</p> <p>We will be introducing themes related to areas of questioning in the survey on the blog throughout the consultation period. As well as using the blog to expand on your responses to the survey you can also raise other output issues and ideas you think are important but at this stage the focus needs to be on high level issues rather than detail such as possible table content. We can’t promise to meet all user expectations but we want your views to inform the development of our overall output strategy and help us to prioritise and target our resources.</p> <p>The blog is open to everyone who is interested in and uses census data from the casual to the experienced user and from across the different census communities. We look forward to hearing your views over the coming 12 weeks formal consultation period and beyond.</p> 
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				<title>PLEASE READ FIRST</title>
				<link>http://www.ukcensusoutputs.net/forum/t-104096/please-read-first</link>
				<description>Please read this first if you are new to this archive category</description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The discussion threads in this category are reproductions of blog post comment threads that appeared on the initial output consultation period that ran for six months from February 2008.</p> <p>Each thread starts with the original blog post and replies are formed from the user comments and questions, and subsequent replies from the Census offices. This forms a reporduction of the comment thread style from the original website.</p> <p>User comments are credited as appropriate unless the original author was anonymous.</p> 
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